My wife and I just came back from a class at the Stone Turtle Cooking School. http://www.stoneturtlebaking.com/ Mike and Sandy have a beautiful wood fired oven and hold classes that teach creative ways of using it in a fully equipped kitchen classroom building. The class we took was on making pie crusts, pies, tarts, and gallettes. We have spent years trying to perfect making pie crusts and shells for baking. I think that we now can do that. If you ever get a chance to take a class there we highly recommend that you do.